I helped Adam in the Tempe municipal court yesterday, Nov. 14, 2012. It was clear facts were not going to be a focus. Are they ever with government attacks?
I asked the man who wrote the complaint, a Mr. Stoufer, what facts he relied on to prove the constitution and code were applicable to Adam to then prove the court had jurisdiction. His response was pretty bold: “I’ll let the judge decide that.” Yes, in response to a question about the facts, this man said: “I’ll let the judge decide that.”
So I reminded him of his written rules about disclosure [sorry, could not find a better online link] requiring the disclosure of evidence prior to the hearing. Mr. Stoufer was not moved a bit and stood with “I’ll let the judge decide that.”
The judge, a lawyer named Elizabeth N. Olson, couldn’t have cared less about the facts. Being another “former” prosecutor, I don’t expect her to be interested in facts beyond how one is going to pay the fines she imposes. I’ll address this in more detail though in another article and on the radio show. What I want to mention now though is we have to question why the man would be so bold about refusing to discuss the facts his sacred writ requires and to also so confidently lay his burden on the judge. Makes sense he already knew Elizabeth was not going to hold him to any factual burden. They’re on the same team after all.
What is of interest here is that in every traffic court I have been in here in Arizona, there is a familiar order on each wall; you must pay all fines on the day the lawyers declare their decisions of guilty/responsibility. As I pointed out to Deborah Schaefer, a court administrator yesterday, the law does not impose such a requirement. I know, the law is an opinion backed by a gun, but this is to demonstrate their own laws do not not govern their behavior. The law in question 28-1601 says:
“A person shall pay all civil penalties within thirty days from entry of judgment, except that if payment within thirty days will place an undue economic burden on a person, the court may extend the time for payment or may provide for installment payments.” [Emphasis mine]
So why are people being threatened to pay the same day or suffer more punishment? Ms. Schaefer said she did not know anything about it, that I could submit a complaint in writing. So I did; here it is, right click to download. I’m under no pretense anything is going to be done about it. I asked a cop who was in the lobby if there were three credible witnesses and documentary evidence to felonies being committed at the court would he investigate, even if it involved judges. He laughed and said he would not entertain such a scenario. So I’m pretty confident despite this obvious conflict with the law involving coercion and millions of dollars, nothing will be done. I’ll post any response from Ms. Schaefer.
When you use lies and coercion to forcibly take millions of dollars from people, we usually call that racketeering. I’m sure if I did business in the same way the people doing business as the Tempe municipal court do, those same people would not hesitate to label me a criminal. I’ve seen the intense visceral response from bureaucrats when I ask them if I’d be considered a criminal if I provided my services to the market in the same manner as them; so they know the way they do business is immoral and criminal, even by their loose standards.
It’s also interesting to note Ms. Schaefer’s response when I mentioned governments operate by coercion and have no voluntary support; she said: “I’m sorry you feel that way.” I had to tell her it’s not how I feel, those are the facts. Governments being men and women coercing people to pay them is not an issue of argument, opinion, feelings or faith; those are empirical facts.
Anyone who disagrees with these facts are always welcome to call into the No State Project or even be scheduled as a guest so they can present their evidence. We can record segments, but I prefer live so I’m not accused of creative editing.
But we don’t have to just file these complaints, we can do something about it ourselves. What we can do is alert people going into these Arizona courts by giving them copies of 28-1601. This way everyone can call the judges and clerks on their lies we have to pay the same day; they can show the judge and clerks the actual law and see for themselves who the criminals are.
I’ve posted them inside the East Mesa justice court next to the orders to pay the same day. Yes, they can ignore our complaints, that’s why they flippantly tell us to put our complaints in writing, but they may not stop us from informing people of the additional crimes the judges and clerks are committing everyday.
I wonder how they’ll enjoy a day where their victims take a stand and call them on one of their many lies.