I spoke with Pauline Wright of the New South Wales Law Society last week. Unfortunately, the audio file was corrupted so I just have my notes and recollection of the call. I was advised by someone at the city council office in Sydney to speak with the law society about evidence the laws applied.
As I mention in the below video, Pauline agreed that if I’m physically in Australia, then the laws of Australia apply to me. She mentioned it was the same in every country.
When I asked if there was any evidence to prove the constitution and laws apply to me just because I’m physically in Australia, she said it was not a matter of evidence, that it was the law. I asked if she meant the laws apply because the law says so. She agreed. I pointed out that was not evidence, it was circular logic. Again, she already said the applicability of the laws was not a matter of evidence.
She backed off a bit and stated it’s not just what the laws say, it’s what the people have said through their duly elected representatives. So I countered with: duly elected by the people they force to pay them? I thought it was not accurate to claim people who are forced have “duly elected” anything except choosing to avoid going to jail.
Pauline argued about democracy and the people wanting government. I said that is just not correct, support is compulsory. Pauline agreed, that if you don’t pay, then you suffer the consequences. Again, I pointed out she has her facts wrong, the people did not have a choice (except to violently resist) whether there was a government, only that some of the people were given a choice regarding who would temporarily run the government.
While she did say initially there is no choice if there is government, she later claimed the people could always vote to change the constitution and abolish the government. I thought that was rather odd and pointed out that did not address the violent nature of the present system:pay-or-get-shot.
Last, she did agree that if I did business in the same manner as “government” and forced people to pay for my services, then I’d be a robber. Though she excused the same robbery done by people called “governments” by arguing “governments” do it through duly elected representatives. Again, duly elected by those people they are forcing payment from?
Governments are just people. If it’s robbery to force people to pay you, then it doesn’t matter if you let your victims think they have a choice as to who runs the gang every few years. It’s still robbery.