NonE's call about self-ownership
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NonE's call about self-ownership
10-31-2011, 06:05 PM (This post was last modified: 10-31-2011 06:13 PM by NonEntity.)
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RE: NonE's call about self-ownership
(10-31-2011 05:49 PM)zonsb Wrote:  I agree. Rights and ownership are product of reason and come into existence by agreement -- chosen by voluntary support.

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Interesting that you say this, as my impression of you is one of the Ayn Randian, Objectivist sorts who tend (in my experience) to PROCLAIM things, rather that to seek agreement. That is the big issue I've had with that First Principles thing you pointed to so much for a while... it was all filled with claims and demands about HOW THINGS ARE and such which TOTALLY alienates me.

That is the essence of my disagreement with the general libertarian, well and the republican and the democrat and the zionist and the communist and the socialist and ... you get the idea - when someone stands up and proclaims that this is the way I have to think and behave, well I have a problem with that. Now if they lay out their thinking and ask me if I'd like to join them in something or other, I'm much more amenable.

It's kind like, how do you force someone to be free? If you're wanting to force me, well... NO. It's quite simple.

- NonE

{edit} What do you mean, I have a problem with authority? You're GOD DAMNED RIGHT I DO!

{additional edit} WOW! See that? My reaction, my emotion, in that last edit is exactly what propels people to proclaim that the OWN THEMSELVES. I am exhibiting that behavior. But my logical analysis refutes my instinctive emotional response and allows me to grasp that "ownership" is more complex than simple territorial instinct. Or at least I think it is. Wouldn't it be funny if I talk myself out of my own theory? It wouldn't be the first time.

- NonE the severely deluded Sister Sleazious .).

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RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 07:23 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 09:03 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 10:09 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 10:48 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-30-2011, 02:00 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Jonathanr - 10-30-2011, 08:09 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - NonEntity - 10-31-2011 06:05 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - soveREIGN - 11-01-2011, 04:51 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 11-08-2011, 08:42 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Jonathanr - 11-20-2011, 04:34 AM
RE: Celebrate...celebrate... - eye2i2hear - 10-01-2012, 02:15 PM

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