NonE's call about self-ownership
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NonE's call about self-ownership
11-01-2011, 12:50 AM
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RE: NonE's call about self-ownership
(10-31-2011 09:38 PM)NonEntity Wrote:  
(10-31-2011 08:37 PM)zonsb Wrote:  Do you want me to imagine/fabricate your argument for you of what bothers/troubles you about something I've written; then attribute it to you as though you created the argument rather than me having fabricated it; and have me make a counter argument to my fabricated argument? When you put forth evidence of something I wrote that bothers/troubles you and state your case for why it bothers you I will give you consideration/value in return. Until then, I don't know how I can help you. Because I'm not going to create an argument for you and then make a counter argument against it.

I have a hard time imagining that you don't know what the thing was that you were promoting at the bottom of each post for months, but it may be so. The something or something "Party"...? Does that ring a bell.

Yes. Thank you. The Twelve Visions Party is 100% percent voluntary. I do recall that several times you appeared to have a blind spot that if a completely voluntary, customer-driven protection service calls itself a government, that a government in name only contradicts a voluntary society despite that it never uses initiatory force, threat of force or fraud. It's really not that hard to grasp, for most people. I see no sense in discussing it when you've shown no interest in learning what it is factually, rather than hold onto your belief of what it is

It's actually kind of funny; you searching to identify and articulate an argument predicated on a belief. There is a search function and you could have searched "Party" by author "zonsb".

Quote:I simply brought it up to give to you as an example of what I see as a contradiction between your "totally voluntary" stance of a few posts back with this other thing which basically made claims and demands of what must be believed.

The Twelve Visions Party makes no claims and demands what must be believed. But hey, it's your belief and I suppose you have a "right" to it.

Quote:it was all filled with claims and demands about HOW THINGS ARE and such which TOTALLY alienates me.

Interesting that you think it alienates you rather than your belief alienates you? If I were to say the purpose of human life is to prosper and live happily, and that's not true of your life, why do you allow it to TOTALLY alienate you?

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The thought of how far the human race would have advanced absent initiatory force
staggers the imagination.

THE POINT: Unlike the government thief, a common thief doesn't claim his "craft" is honest.
Lawyer-like dishonesty a point: The common thief is honest when he tells you he's robbing you.
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RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 07:23 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 09:03 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 10:09 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 10:48 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-30-2011, 02:00 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Jonathanr - 10-30-2011, 08:09 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - zonsb - 11-01-2011 12:50 AM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - soveREIGN - 11-01-2011, 04:51 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 11-08-2011, 08:42 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Jonathanr - 11-20-2011, 04:34 AM
RE: Celebrate...celebrate... - eye2i2hear - 10-01-2012, 02:15 PM

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