NonE's call about self-ownership
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NonE's call about self-ownership
11-02-2011, 09:53 AM (This post was last modified: 11-02-2011 10:35 AM by eye2i2hear.)
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RE: NonE's call about self-ownership
(11-02-2011 08:46 AM)Dionysus Wrote:  Sorry, eye2. I knew I shouldn’t have used the dreaded “b” word (“believe"). I personally try not to “believe” anything— I either know or don’t know. I was just trying to ascertain where NonE was coming from.

~kewel beans
thanks for sharing the thoughts with me~

Quote:My question would be: where does that resistance come from? Doesn’t it come from that nonphysical part of you (call it spirit) for which self-ownership is intrinsic?

First, i'd wish to note that I share this from a present state, and intend to reflect further upon it, as to accuracy. That said, I actually find 'self-ownership' redundant, if not a tautology; but mostly, as already shared, a (mere) belief. It seems, experientialy, i simply am my self -and subsequently, recognize and relate to other selves (e.g. you) as such. And I mean that from that sense of 'spirit' (or state of mind/mine/human 'being'). The resistance seems for me to be simply in the ignoring of, or violating logical consistency and in irrationality, followed by the inherent literal consequences of the likes of 'pain' (e.g. discomfort, labor), both psychological and physical (state of being/actuality). I sincerely don't sense relevance or significance of thinking in terms of "self-owning". [again, I intend to do some reflection to see if indeed, I've ever thought in such terms, contrasted with very likely having spoken in such terms, say, per a having caught a meme/religious belief.]


ps: I own possess have a pdf copy [1.1meg] of the book by Millman, mentioned by NonEntity, if you'd like a digi-copy~ *caveat: that is, if you want to risk becoming like NonE* ;^)

Is it voluntary? (because if it isn't, what inherently is it?)
And can it be voluntary, if there's indoctrination, intimidation, coercion, threats & initiation of violence?
[not to be confused with asking: can it be said to be "voluntary" even when such is present.?]
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RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 07:23 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 09:03 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 10:09 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 10:48 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-30-2011, 02:00 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Jonathanr - 10-30-2011, 08:09 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - soveREIGN - 11-01-2011, 04:51 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - eye2i2hear - 11-02-2011 09:53 AM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 11-08-2011, 08:42 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Jonathanr - 11-20-2011, 04:34 AM
RE: Celebrate...celebrate... - eye2i2hear - 10-01-2012, 02:15 PM

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