NonE's call about self-ownership
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NonE's call about self-ownership
11-02-2011, 11:29 AM
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RE: NonE's call about self-ownership

Jim Walker, in Confusing the Map for the Territory Wrote:[We can create symbols that point to nowhere but themselves and taken as fact outside one's body. Humans can think of themselves in the future doing all sorts of things before they actually do them. This of course produces desirable results such as creating tools, methods of gathering food, and art that allowed survival and a thirst for living. Generally these results outweigh the defects. As Victor S. Johnston put it, "The human brain did not evolve to accurately represent the world around us; it evolved only to enhance the survival of our genes." But if a thinking defect can result in a catastrophic violent event, we could let the defects of our thinking overrule the benefits. These defects emerge out of our ability to create images and symbols. We can create images of unique animals that don't exist, including monsters, serpents and gods. We can even think of them as all powerful and strong. One can create all sorts of characters: the little people-- leprechauns, and the big people-- giants, and distorted scary [entities] like demons, ghosts and devils. And not only can we develop mental images of these monsters and gods, but we [can] attach emotions to them as well. Productively we attach emotions to symbols of thought that reflect external reality (family members, friends, animals, and objects). According to Johnston, the combination of emotions with symbolic thought produces meaning. But with this capacity comes the ability to develop meanings for things that do not exist. Little girls develop the ability to attach emotional feelings to dolls, and pretend that their toys live. Little boys learn how to pretend to hunt and fight and attach emotions to them. We learn feelings of desire, fear, and wonder by wandering to the limits of our play. Imagination allows us to create technology, mathematics, and art, but with it can also come terrifying thoughts that could cause harm to us. We grow to learn the difference between most of our thoughts and what they represent, but most of us get fooled into believing the reality of some things that don't exist at all.

If we fail to understand the difference between what occurs in our minds and what occurs outside our minds, we can confuse the symbols for the things they represent; we have the capacity to act on things that exist only in our heads while believing they exist [or should/"has to" exist] outside our heads. Now if only one person in a group believes in a non-external thing, we usually label him deluded, crazy or insane. But if most of the group believes in the same non-entity, then the majority can rule out the non-believing minority. Depending on the belief, this can result in a belief-system taken from superstitions, ideologies or fictions taken as facts and passed on from generation to generation.

*footnote: the author done good, until he got off into that bit about a group believing in the same NonEntity; pffft, who'd be ingoranus enough to engage the likes of such?!?


Is it voluntary? (because if it isn't, what inherently is it?)
And can it be voluntary, if there's indoctrination, intimidation, coercion, threats & initiation of violence?
[not to be confused with asking: can it be said to be "voluntary" even when such is present.?]
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RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 07:23 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 09:03 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 10:09 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-29-2011, 10:48 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 10-30-2011, 02:00 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Jonathanr - 10-30-2011, 08:09 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - soveREIGN - 11-01-2011, 04:51 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - eye2i2hear - 11-02-2011 11:29 AM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Kel - 11-08-2011, 08:42 PM
RE: NonE's call about self-ownership - Jonathanr - 11-20-2011, 04:34 AM
RE: Celebrate...celebrate... - eye2i2hear - 10-01-2012, 02:15 PM

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