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NSP – Nov 15, 2014 – Libertopia Edition – [UPDATE: VIDEO]

Posted on November 15th, 2014 by Calvin

Guests: Brian Downum L.Ac, Sequoia, Calvin DeWitt, Paul Gibbons, Wendy Sellens L.Ac.

Show Notes:

Full video is 12 parts, watch playlist here.

[Dec. 3 2014 update]  We have some picts thanks to NonEntity:

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18 Comments For This Post

  1. Andy Says:

    “Using creative methods to demonstrate the unequal and unfair application of law to the largely unaware general public.”

    http://marcstevens.net/board/thread-6262-post-41547.html#pid41547

  2. RAD Says:

    Marc go to Las Vegas on an August night at 2 am and feel how hot it is then drive 5 miles outside of town and notice it’s like 15 degrees cooler. And then tell us people aren’t contributing to the warming.

  3. 11:11 Says:

    LOL @ RAD Have you stopped to think that Vegas is comprised of lots of concrete and hot lights that all working together make the temperature warmer there compared to the barren countryside?

  4. Boxer Says:

    @RAD

    Are you suggesting that anthropogenic global warming, and, in particular, carbon monoxide, can identify the imaginary borders known as “city limits” and makes a conscience decision to stay within those “limits”?

  5. Boxer Says:

    *****dioxide (not monoxide)

  6. NonE Says:

    It’s absolutely amazing that they’ve been able to position carbon dioxide as a threat to life. It appears that man is so gullible he’ll accept ANYTHING said by someone in a white lab coat. Next thing is they’ll have people signing petitions to outlaw Dihydrogen Monoxide. Oh, wait… THEY DID that already.

    For anyone capable of rational thought, here’s a place to begin collecting data: http://joannenova.com.au/

  7. Boxer Says:

    @NonE

    Even more amazing is the fact that those who push the AGW agenda use the appeal to populism as scientific justification that it is real.

    “10 billion climate change scientists agree”

    What would those “scientists” be doing otherwise?

  8. NonE Says:

    “What would those “scientists” be doing otherwise?”

    What does this mean?

  9. Boxer Says:

    In order to be a climate scientist, they to create a climate “problem”. If they weren’t climate scientists, what type of scientist would they be?

  10. NonE Says:

    Well, they aren’t scientists in the first place as the concept of science is to openly and honestly test theories against data and publish the results for others to examine and perhaps duplicate or disprove. So since they’re not scientists in the first place they certainly wouldn’t be scientists in the second place. They’re fraudulent suckup toadies, to put it politely. Prostitute might be another word, except it would be demeaning to honest prostitutes to use that label for these parasites.

  11. NonE Says:

    Well, they aren’t scientists in the first place as the concept of science is to openly and honestly test theories against data and publish the results for others to examine and perhaps duplicate or disprove. So since they’re not scientists in the first place they certainly wouldn’t be scientists in the second place. They’re fraudulent suckup toadies, to put it politely. Prostitute might be another word, except it would be demeaning to honest prostitutes to use that label for these parasites.

  12. NonE Says:

    COOL! I speak and my message echoes off the walls of the universe and comes back to speak again. I’m so powerful it scares me!

  13. RAD Says:

    “11:11 Says:
    November 21st, 2014 at 3:35 pm

    LOL @ RAD Have you stopped to think that Vegas is comprised of lots of concrete and hot lights that all working together make the temperature warmer there compared to the barren countryside?”

    Really? It’s not just part of the earth’s climate’s “natural” fluctuations”?

  14. RAD Says:

    “Boxer Says:
    November 21st, 2014 at 5:44 pm

    @RAD

    Are you suggesting that anthropogenic global warming, and, in particular, carbon monoxide, can identify the imaginary borders known as “city limits” and makes a conscience decision to stay within those “limits”?”

    That would be the only rational conclusion wouldn’t it?
    /sarcasm off

  15. eye2i Says:

    Is this what RAD is talking about:
    [quote=Wikipedia]Some cities exhibit a heat island effect, largest at night. Seasonally, urban heat island UHI shows up both in summer and winter. The typical temperature difference is several degrees between the center of the city and surrounding fields. The difference in temperature between an inner city and its surrounding suburbs is frequently mentioned in weather reports, as in “68 °F (20 °C) downtown, 64 °F (18 °C) in the suburbs”. Black surfaces absorb significantly more electromagnetic radiation, and causes the surfaces of asphalt roads and highways to heat. “The annual mean air temperature of a city with 1 million people or more can be 1.8–5.4 °F (1.0–3.0 °C) warmer than its surroundings. In the evening, the difference can be as high as 22 °F (12 °C).

    An urban heat island (UHI) is a metropolitan area that is significantly warmer than its surrounding rural areas due to human activities. The phenomenon was first investigated and described by Luke Howard in the 1810s, although he was not the one to name the phenomenon. The temperature difference usually is larger at night than during the day, and is most apparent when winds are weak. UHI is most noticeable during the summer and winter. The principal reason for the nighttime warming is that the short-wave radiation is still within the concrete, asphalt, and buildings that was absorbed during the day, unlike suburban and rural areas. This energy is then slowly released during the night as long-wave radiation, making cooling a slow process. Two other reasons are changes in the thermal properties of surface materials and lack of evapotranspiration (for example through lack of vegetation) in urban areas. With a decreased amount of vegetation, cities also lose the shade and cooling effect of trees, the low albedo of their leaves, and the removal of carbon dioxide. Materials commonly used in urban areas for pavement and roofs, such as concrete and asphalt, have significantly different thermal bulk properties (including heat capacity and thermal conductivity) and surface radiative properties (albedo and emissivity) than the surrounding rural areas. This causes a change in the energy balance of the urban area, often leading to higher temperatures than surrounding rural areas.[/quote]

    That entry also includes this:
    [quote=Wikipedia]Despite concerns raised about its possible contribution to global warming, comparisons between urban and rural areas show that the urban heat island effects have little influence on global mean temperature trends.[/quote]
    MMV/FWIW/FYC

  16. RAD Says:

    Ya, the heat island effect of Las Vegas IN ITSELF will have “little effect” on the global climate. Taken in isolation. When you drive around by yourself you don’t change the climate to any measurable degree. But the net effect of you and everybody else it adds up. Like your car in itself couldn’t create the cloud of perpetual smog over the city either. Everybody else driving around all the time it adds up. It’s not really hard science but to pretend it’s not a legit theory based on denialism isn’t hard science either.

  17. RAD Says:

    “Al Gore can’t really prove all his theories therefore global warming isn’t real” is a nirvana fallacy, that since the theory can’t be fully explained to where it provides all the answers it is somehow therefore “falsified” thus.

  18. eye2i Says:

    @RAD: The problem i have with your analogy is that you’re adding one/each car to a pool of cars, increasing the pool, right? With the likes of the heat island effect, where’s the similarly added source(s)? The island’s significant and relevant heat source is solar, correct? And that energy strikes the earth regardless of the reflective heat islands, no? Where that energy would have warmed the earth under said island if the reflector wasn’t there, right? And with the reflector there, what of the temperature of the earth under it? Wouldn’t the surrounding earth then dissipate it’s heat towards this cooler/shaded earth, offsetting it? Also known as neutralizing the reflective effect?
    [granted, i don’t know how winter months differ per this island effect, where the effect of the likes of electric motors, lights, and such generate heat year round; my cursory reading left me with the impression that the heat island effect is largely, as again significantly, the matter of reflection.?]

    What of this analogy: in a room there is a radiant heater. I place a reflector in front of the heater and a wall. This reflector is the equivalent of a heat island, no? Having placed that reflector there, does the temperature of the room increase because of it?

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