I spoke about these two calls with the IRS on the No State Project 14 March 2015. These are good examples of psychopathic agents. They lie and just don’t care they are hurting people.
The second agent, when asked for the facts to prove jurisdiction, said:
You’re talking way over my head, I don’t have an answer to that question.
Didn’t seem to bother him that he could not prove jurisdiction. Because the IRS is a terrorist organization staffed with psychopaths.